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« on: May 08, 2008, 04:30:23 PM »

check the folowing links
 ;)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3jwVMIz4PQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU2vq7lgako&feature=related

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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2008, 04:50:22 PM »

That was pretty cool, and I can't tell you how many people have requested that I make one of those after the Illusionist movie.  Still, the one in the movie had a solid picture in the center that was not torn or broken by the movement. 

I actually have a cool idea of how to accomplish that feat.  If I get around to making it, Peter Wiltshire, you will be the first on my list to get one. 
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2008, 08:25:36 PM »

There was a marathon discussion of this at Rausch's Forum:

http://forum.johnrausch.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=000276
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2008, 09:57:42 PM »

Wow Robert cool!  Actually "The Illusionist" is one of my all time favorite films. It's  Dvd is currently on display on top of my tv.  I did find out on the commentary track of the film that the locket used in the film was actually two lockets. One that was able to twist, and a second locket that pivoted open to reveal the photo.  I would be very interested if you have come up with a way to make one as it appears in the film.  I did sit down and mock up a locket that could twist, but it did not pivot open.  It was quite simple, and I used rare earth magnets as the hinge point.

For other forum members if you have not seen "The Illusionist" I highly recommend it!  The magic performed in the film is very accurate to real illusions of the time period.  In fact there is a performance of a blossoming orange tree that was a real trick that Robert Houdin performed back in the time period.
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2008, 10:14:08 AM »

The trick to keeping the picture intact is to place a restricting wall (in the middle and on the bottom) of the chamber lid.  As the lid closes, the picture curls up on one side of the chamber.  As it opens, the picture spreads back out flat again.  You never see the wall that does this because it appears to be the normal left wall of the chamber when the lid is open.  It will only work with a paper object placed inside, and the paper has to be heavy stock (like a picture) to bounce back.

Nice take on the magnets to section the lid
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« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2008, 07:54:26 AM »

Interesting, so if I understand you correctly the picture becomes almost like a window shade curling up as the locket is closed, then uncurling as the locket is opened.  This is a very nice way to accomplish the uncut photo, much better than having to cut the photo in half, and the photo mechanism is powered and hidden by the opening and closing of the locket.  Oooooooo that's nice!
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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2008, 08:38:42 AM »

It is the easiest way I could think of. 

In my vision, the picture would probably not curl up like a window shade, but instead it would just loosely buckle.  (It seems that a rolled up picture might not totally uncurl and give clues to the trick). 

Of course, to pull this off, you would also have to hollow out a bottom portion of the lid on one side to make room for the bulge.  This holloweded out area would also not be seen when the top was slid open because it would then be over the base of the box on the opposite side.

I'm sure the idea needs a bit of tweaking and it is still in a rough concept form.  If you play around with the idea, let me know if you ever get it to work.  Quite possibly, there is also a better way to accompish the same feat that I have not thought of.

The second most request puzzle by collectors is a "hellraiser cube" that actually works.  Strangely, I have an idea for that as well, and come back and play with the concpet from time to time.
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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2008, 11:17:05 PM »

Looks like someone has made and is selling the Illusionist locket on Ebay.  See this link http://stores.ebay.com/illusionist-locket
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« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2008, 09:44:09 AM »

Someone did a good explanation on how it works, but I can't imagine milling these parts myself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3jwVMIz4PQ&feature=related
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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2008, 09:58:54 AM »

Very cool mechanism and very difficult to make out of wood.  It seems like it would be a lot easier to replicate with magnets holding everyhing together. 

As far as the picture not tearing in the middle, there is a way to do that too, but it would have to bow up on one side as the heart lid closed.  I don't know if my idea of diong this could be done in a locket that was as thin as the one in the picture.
 
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« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2008, 11:59:46 AM »

if the diameter of the picture was less than the thickness of the piece then it could simply rotate, a bit like a ball joint?

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